I saw this on a blog;
"In Judo Randori is described by Jigoro Kano, the founder of Judo, in a speech at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympic Games: "Randori, meaning "free exercise", is practiced under conditions of actual contest. It includes throwing, choking, holding the opponent down, and bending or twisting his arms or legs. The two combatants may use whatever methods they like provided they do not hurt each other and obey the rules of Judo concerning etiquette, which are essential to its proper working."
http://stuartjudo.blogspot.com/searc...&by-date=false
I thought this was really fascinating because it seems like Kano was saying that leg locks were allowed in randori at the time, and that any throwing technique was allowed unless it was done with bad intention or dangerously (like purposefully spiking a guy on his head with ura nage or something)
I also have no clue if the statement is really Kano's or if it is accurate.
At my club, our randori is shaped by the current contest rules. I understand that many of the folks there compete and it would be impractical for them to train in techniques no longer allowed.
I'm definitely not trying to start a "the new rules suck" **** storm thread.
But, I am curious:
1. At your club (BJJ, Judo, SAMBO, etc.) what is randori/sparring like?
Can you use pretty much any technique as long as you are being controlled and safe?
Are you allowed to use techniques which are not allowed in your sports ruleset?
2. If your answer to the above is yes, than do you wish it was more restrictive for whatever reason?
If your answer to the above is no, than do you wish that free practice was more diverse when it comes to technique?
I'm really interested in people's current opinions on this.
"In Judo Randori is described by Jigoro Kano, the founder of Judo, in a speech at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympic Games: "Randori, meaning "free exercise", is practiced under conditions of actual contest. It includes throwing, choking, holding the opponent down, and bending or twisting his arms or legs. The two combatants may use whatever methods they like provided they do not hurt each other and obey the rules of Judo concerning etiquette, which are essential to its proper working."
http://stuartjudo.blogspot.com/searc...&by-date=false
I thought this was really fascinating because it seems like Kano was saying that leg locks were allowed in randori at the time, and that any throwing technique was allowed unless it was done with bad intention or dangerously (like purposefully spiking a guy on his head with ura nage or something)
I also have no clue if the statement is really Kano's or if it is accurate.
At my club, our randori is shaped by the current contest rules. I understand that many of the folks there compete and it would be impractical for them to train in techniques no longer allowed.
I'm definitely not trying to start a "the new rules suck" **** storm thread.
But, I am curious:
1. At your club (BJJ, Judo, SAMBO, etc.) what is randori/sparring like?
Can you use pretty much any technique as long as you are being controlled and safe?
Are you allowed to use techniques which are not allowed in your sports ruleset?
2. If your answer to the above is yes, than do you wish it was more restrictive for whatever reason?
If your answer to the above is no, than do you wish that free practice was more diverse when it comes to technique?
I'm really interested in people's current opinions on this.