So this story starts out, probably unsurprisingly, in the online ridiculing of a ninjer guard pass (from none other than Stephen K Hayes - all the more fun can be had here).
During the conversation a black belt posted the following as a legit version of the pass (and what I'll be referring to is at 1:05 if you can't be arsed to watch the whole thing).
So in my mind, when the passer throws the leg over to break the guard/trap the leg I have a hard time believing that the guy in bottom guard wouldn't just catch the leg in their armpit. If you look at that above video (at the 1:05 mark) the purple belt playing the guard has to actively keep his arm out of the way so that the technique can work.
My question is - particularly for our resident heel hook aficionados (Villain? Plasma?) - if you change that underarm grip to a heel hook grip (but maintaining the closed guard), can you complete a bastardised heel hook from there?
I had a play around with it at training last night and could complete the heel hook (despite the unorthodox leg positioning) as long as I kept the guard closed. I am wary though that it was against people not overly familiar with heel hooks and just want to make sure I'm not letting confirmation bias run rampant with my idea.
Any help/insights would be appreciated. Cheers.
During the conversation a black belt posted the following as a legit version of the pass (and what I'll be referring to is at 1:05 if you can't be arsed to watch the whole thing).
So in my mind, when the passer throws the leg over to break the guard/trap the leg I have a hard time believing that the guy in bottom guard wouldn't just catch the leg in their armpit. If you look at that above video (at the 1:05 mark) the purple belt playing the guard has to actively keep his arm out of the way so that the technique can work.
My question is - particularly for our resident heel hook aficionados (Villain? Plasma?) - if you change that underarm grip to a heel hook grip (but maintaining the closed guard), can you complete a bastardised heel hook from there?
I had a play around with it at training last night and could complete the heel hook (despite the unorthodox leg positioning) as long as I kept the guard closed. I am wary though that it was against people not overly familiar with heel hooks and just want to make sure I'm not letting confirmation bias run rampant with my idea.
Any help/insights would be appreciated. Cheers.